Love him or hate him (and judging from the reactions to his death at the age of 71, most people chose option B) Hulk Hogan was a genuine American icon. We brought back our official pro wrestling correspondent Josephine Riesman, author of Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America, to talk about Hogan’s career, his status as a figure of American nationalist propaganda, union busting, his association with Peter Thiel and Donald Trump and much more.
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Ep. 392: Real American ft. Josephine Riesman
From the Reagan era to the Trump era, Hulk Hogan was both an avatar of wholesome American values and the corrupt rot lurking beneath the surface
Jul 25, 2025
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